The ideal that only the 9 members of the Governing Body are the FDS is new .The idea that only the 9 of the GB provide spiritual food has been around for some years .This is not significant change for your local elders ,all they is care is their position ,doctrinal changes is not something that interests them anymore .
raymond frantz
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Reaction When Telling JWs "New Light" Regarding GB & FDS
by turtleturtle ini told some jw friends about the confirmed changes to the understanding of who the fds is.
two brothers that are in appointed positions stated "i thought that was the understanding already".. .
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Your LEGAL RIGHTS at the Kingdom Hall
by raymond frantz inwe all know that the society treats us as door mats and we left our rights as christians behind when we got baptized ,but each congragation in britain is registered as an autononous charity ,so you and i the rank and file we contribute towards these charities .does this gives us any rights in the eyes of the law ?
i had a chat with a solicitor and he said you might have but he needs to see first the constitution .the question is : i pressume that this constitution is the same in all british congagations and drafted from the brilliant minds of the watchtower leagal department .does anyone have a copy of a constitution ?
has anyone ever looked into it ?
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raymond frantz
The idea behind my interest looking into constitution is to find signs or evidence that shows that publishers as contributors have certain rights and therefore the right to put pressure to the undisputed power of elders in the Kingdom Hall .If we have no rights ,why is it that resolutions have to be boted from all in the congragation?
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Annual meeting. Greek scholars please help!
by DATA-DOG inbelow is a statement from gb member gerrit losch.
notice what is said about the fds.
is this true?
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raymond frantz
the use of the article "Ο" is not indicative of the phrase "faithful and and discreet slave " being singular or composite ,this is unrelated .I'm waiting to see that in the Watchtower at some point .As it stands the comments made in this Annual Meetting are incoclusive . What is really evident though is that they spent the whole meeting talking about the meaning of the phrase "faithful and discreet slave" .Jehovah,Jesus ,The End ,shunning policies ,pedophila cases are not woth mentioning . As Jesus said "wisdom is proved righteous by its works" (Matthew 11:19) If they are the faithful and discreet time will tell (don't count on it )
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Annual meeting. Greek scholars please help!
by DATA-DOG inbelow is a statement from gb member gerrit losch.
notice what is said about the fds.
is this true?
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raymond frantz
Articles and their use in Greek Language
There are two articles in Modern Greek, the definite and the indefinite. They are both inflected by gender and case, and the definite article also for number. The article agrees with the noun it modifies.
Definite article
The definite article is used frequently in Greek, such as before proper names and nouns used in an abstract sense. For example,
- Ο Αλεξανδρος ηρθε χθες (O Alexandros irthe chthes, "Alexander came yesterday")
- Η ειλικρινεια ειναι η καλητερη πρακτικη . (I eilikrineia einai i kalyteri praktiki, "Honesty is the best policy")
Masculine Feminine Neuter Singular Nominative ο [o] η [i] το [to] Genitive του [tu] της [tis] του [tu] Accusative τον [ton] την [tin] το [to] Plural Nominative οι [i] οι [i] τα [ta] Genitive των [ton] των [ton] των [ton] Accusative τους [tus] τις [tis] τα [ta] Indefinite article
The indefinite article is identical with the numeral one and has only singular. The use of the indefinite article is not dictated by rules and the speaker can use it according to the circumstances of his speech. Indefiniteness in plural nouns is expressed by the bare noun without an article. For example,
- Αγ?ρασα ?ναν υπολογιστ? (Agorasa enan ypologisti, "I bought a computer")
However, the indefinite article is not used in Greek as often as in English because it specifically expresses the concept of "one". For example,
- Ε?ναι δικηγ?ρος (Einai dikigoros, "He is a lawyer")
- Τι καλ? παιδ?! (Ti kalo paidi, "What a good boy!")
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Songs that are RELEVANT to JW's
by raymond frantz inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v84mjacumu8&feature=related.
i found the title and lyrics relevand?
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raymond frantz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v84mJACUmu8&feature=related
I found the title and lyrics relevand?
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Your LEGAL RIGHTS at the Kingdom Hall
by raymond frantz inwe all know that the society treats us as door mats and we left our rights as christians behind when we got baptized ,but each congragation in britain is registered as an autononous charity ,so you and i the rank and file we contribute towards these charities .does this gives us any rights in the eyes of the law ?
i had a chat with a solicitor and he said you might have but he needs to see first the constitution .the question is : i pressume that this constitution is the same in all british congagations and drafted from the brilliant minds of the watchtower leagal department .does anyone have a copy of a constitution ?
has anyone ever looked into it ?
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raymond frantz
I'll ask that ,but as far as I remember the solicitor said you need to ask it from the trustees (=elders) or get your solicitor to ask for it
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Your LEGAL RIGHTS at the Kingdom Hall
by raymond frantz inwe all know that the society treats us as door mats and we left our rights as christians behind when we got baptized ,but each congragation in britain is registered as an autononous charity ,so you and i the rank and file we contribute towards these charities .does this gives us any rights in the eyes of the law ?
i had a chat with a solicitor and he said you might have but he needs to see first the constitution .the question is : i pressume that this constitution is the same in all british congagations and drafted from the brilliant minds of the watchtower leagal department .does anyone have a copy of a constitution ?
has anyone ever looked into it ?
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raymond frantz
We all know that the Society treats us as door mats and we left our rights as Christians behind when we got baptized ,but each congragation in Britain is registered as an autononous Charity ,so you and I the rank and file we contribute towards these Charities .Does this gives us any rights in the eyes of the Law ? I had a chat with a solicitor and he said you might have but he needs to see first the Constitution .The question is : I pressume that this constitution is the same in all British congagations and drafted from the brilliant minds of the Watchtower Leagal Department .Does anyone have a copy of a Constitution ? Has anyone ever looked into it ?
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Contributions ,how the Society CONTROLS the funds of a congragation
by raymond frantz ini'm not sure if anyone has started a post about contributions recently ,but if there is an accounts servant here please free to correct me or shed some more light .what i'm about to say is 100% accurate and applies to congragations in britain (don't ask me how just ...join the dots).
the society controls all the funds that are coming in the kingdom hall all of the time .the way this works out is as follows :you put any money in any of the contribution boxes and in the end all money are added to together and deposited to the congragation's bank account .the worldwide donations leave the account as a direct debit to the society every week and the rest stays in the account .now comes the interesting bit :once the account goes over 5000 we are instructed to send the rest to the society as a cheque and is held in their account for as long as the congragation doesn't needed back .this way all but 5000 are held in the society's account .any other experiences ?.
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raymond frantz
Juan Viejo2 ,brilliant letter .A couple of corrections :
- Resolutions :Don't make me laugh ! Has there ever been a resolution NOT passed ? If you put your hand against it ,it will be a visit from the elders for you .Now we know why no one puts their hand up .A resolutions was passed 10 years ago about the CO arrangement Fund and every one has forgotten about it
- I'm the secretary so i know what's coming in and what's going out .I can tell you the CO arangement fund is twice a year, the same amount of visits the CO is paying to the cong ,so for an average congragation of 70-80 that is still £200 a week .Plus congragation donation of £100 for the CO for that particular week and £100 for the family that gives him hospitality
- Our cong has in excess of £100k and I can assure all but £5k are held from the Society
Bottom line is ,NEVER DONATE .
Don't worry if you loose the building is not yours anyway ,it changed owner years ago ,it is part of the Society's real estate
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Annual meeting. Greek scholars please help!
by DATA-DOG inbelow is a statement from gb member gerrit losch.
notice what is said about the fds.
is this true?
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raymond frantz
They have abused this part of the Bible so many times ,I wouldn't expect them to do better now .I will have to agree with Phizzy ,these verses describe two eventualities and not groups of people .This is a parable not a prophesy
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Annual meeting. Greek scholars please help!
by DATA-DOG inbelow is a statement from gb member gerrit losch.
notice what is said about the fds.
is this true?
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raymond frantz
It's so messed up that nothing that comes out of their lying mouths makes any sense